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Jj@nG
07-15-2000, 08:20 PM
To Whom it may concern:
Lately, I've been a dick here at the fr3nsyc forums to players and admins all alike. And if you say I haven't, don't argue with me I will not stop until u agree =P Any way, I think that what phunguy says about how he won't give the rcon to anyone except his friends is wrong. First off, it's a good idea because you know the person and stuff. But one must also think about how will those ppl be admining the server. I see most admins on about the same time as other admins, but at other times I don't see even 1 on for hours and hours. Well, to a good server, there needs to be players and admins. Admins keep the players in check and the players keep the admins in check. It's a system of "checks and balances" Sort of what we have in society today. Whenever someone gets out of line someone checks them and makes sure they are in the right place. All of that b*tching that was going on, was just us players trying to keep the admins in check. But I realize I am in no position to be saying this, but I'm sure someone will acknowlege what I'm saying. The servers is what we players play on, without the servers there will be no players and admins. If there were no players then there will be no admins. But who shall keep the admins from taking all that power and just punish those who don't bow to them? I think the players do. If one gets out of line then there is extreme b*tching or just a simple command in the console and that person is gone. I don't think it's fair to just punish all those who did nothing. I also don't think it's fair to punish those who are sorry for what they do. Like for instance, everyone has a bad day or week. Not everyone is perfect right? But some ppl are just asses! I don't think it's right for those ppl having a bad day be treated like shit and piss them off even more. I'm assuming that all admins have bad days too and sometimes take out some of that fustration out on CS. And when those assholes on cs piss you off you ban them right? Well, hey it's understandable you're only human. But not everyone can keep their cool all the time, everyone loses it, and for you people that don't, well I have great respect for you, cause that's damn hard to do.
Besides the point of having that checks and balances, the admins should be cool too. I mean I thought all of the previous admins were cool, they made fr3nsyc servers cheater and tker free. They did a great job. But now, all that work gone, it's sad and I blame myself for it all. But still, Phunguy, JBond, Shakesbeer, Gegner, Stan da man, [EN]Tolerance, Jazzor, MegotMooseDick, and others are all cool guys. Just sometimes they have bad days and take that bad day into the server, to relieve some fustration. That's good, it's good for you to do so. But as like before when I started that discussion about the attitude of the admins, I just wanted, if at all possible, for the admins not to take out there fustrations by abusing there powers. It was a request not a call for justice. I'm sure all the admins to come will do it too. It's just delaying the inevitable.
Plus, aren't these forums for that kind of discussion anyway? For players to post stuff on there minds, so that admins could know what the players think? I mean, if Phunguy made an all day de_railroad map for both servers, I'm sure people would hate him. So, he doesn't, but it bothers me that all those cool admins will be leaving and it's all my damn fault. I'm so damn sorry guys, I was just trying to speak for some people to let admins know how players feel. I hope you all don't hate me for always saying this kinda sh*t, but hey. I'm just letting you guys know so ppl won't hate you. I wanted the admins know what some ppl thought. Instead of having 90 posts about what each individual thinks, I thought I should just post one damn post. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't admin's care about what the players think? Don't the damn players matter to the servers? Well I don't know but I'm just damn sorry for all this hell that has happened these past few days. I just pray that the servers stay cool as it has in the past, and I hope that all you cool admins out there stay admins and keep the game fun for the players and enjoyable too

PhunGuy
07-16-2000, 06:36 AM
First of all, I don't understand why you're apologizing for a decision of mine that you had no factor or influence in. The decision of who is an admin and who is not is not based on one post. When I see admins saying shit like, "We don't care if you like us one little bit...", with the attitude of 'I'm an admin and you're not', that pisses me off. They're my servers, and I don't want them played like that. You say you want the players to like the admins. Fine. How can any player like an admin when some of them have attitudes like that??? I also saw people being banned for no reason, and I'm not going to get into any specifics here. Suffice it to say, I saw it happen and that also pissed me off. And no, it wasn't just "my friends" that I'm talking about here. I made this decision thinking it was in the best interest of all who played on my servers. I know if I play on a server, and I get booted for no reason, I don't want to play on that server anymore. But it seems like no matter what I do, there is always someone who has to cry about my decision. Fuck it then. If you would like, I can let every prick who asks me be an admin, and then we'll see how much fun all the "Players" have then. Until then, if I choose people who I have known for years and who I trust, people who have been admins for years, to be admins on MY FREE servers, then whoever wants to cry and moan about it can play elsewhere. It's getting pretty fucking tiresome trying to please everyone with the results I usually get.

Jj@nG
07-16-2000, 02:37 PM
Well I tried to send this to you phunguy but you're email account isn't correct. Please delete this post after you have read it. Oh and my appologies. It reads as follows:
Dear Phunguy,
Wow. Ok I didn't really know how you felt about it, I'm glad to hear that
you actually do care about what happens on the servers. Oh and Just a
question? Had my bitching had anything to do with your removal of the
admins? If So Could ya just ban me and then give them their rcon back. But
any way, I have decided to just drop it and stop the flame between u and I.
I feel as though, I might have stuck my head in where it doesn't belong. I'm
sorry for all the trouble and havok I've caused in the fr3nsyc's, but I was
not clued into anything going on and Just went upon what everyone told me. I
just felt the need to speak up, since most of those people that told me
their stories was too afraid to see what might happened to them if they
wrote something of the nature as I did. I hope you accept my appology, and
hope to play with you again someday in the fr3nsyc servers.

Any way, my misunderstanding and I hope that we all can stop this war right now. But you have to know, I was just standing up for some of my principles, when I posted that long rant up there =)