E@r server

[HickBoy]

Ok, I am quoting your webpage:

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Ok, getting in e@r is not easy. For some it can be fast, long for others.
To tryout for e@r you MUST be invited. If you have not, we will most likely ignore you. IF you are just way to damn good and have not been invited, prove it. Until then we will keep ignoring you.

Now for those invited. We will watch you play for quite awhile. So I'd suggest playing where e@r plays. If we feel you are either good, or progressing to becoming real good. Then you will then become a recruit. No, not in e@r...a recruit!

[e@r] wants to not only know your skills but know YOU as a person...until you qualify in all these properties, then you will become a full fledged [e@r] member.

Also, we only accept the best. If you are not damn good. Then don't bother trying to get in. If you play in Fr3nsyc 24/7, then don't bother trying to be invited. If you play in a more challenging server like W.E.W, CoH, [e@r], or bTk and other such hardcore servers...

Then try to become invited. BUT your chances of being invited will be greatly increased if you can OWN these types of servers...not Fr3nsyc. That is all...for now.

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[e@r]DeathScythe

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I am offended at this statment "If you play in Fr3nsyc 24/7, then don't bother trying to be invited"

I feel like we are not invited to your server... In fact, I feel like you think we are beneath you...

Shit... I felt that way until I realized half your teams got @AOL mail extensions...

Now I understand...

Do me a favor... Dont advertise your lame ass selves on the Fr3nsyc servers when you are bashing them on your page.

In fact.. Im gonna look through the logs right now to see if there's any advertisements for your server, so we can see who's playing fr3nsyc 24/7. If I see anyomre e@r ad's consider them kicked.

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Hey, you aol e@r dudes want some good pr0n sites...
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[[e@r]iMagE]

I would just like to make the statement that most of the clan had nothing to do with that post and were not aware of anything having to do with the posting, creating, or revising of that message. I STILL LOVE YOU GUYS!! ALL OF YOu! http://www.fr3nsyc.net/ubb/smile.gif

[Gegner]

Now you went and pissed him off... not an easy thing to do either... you should be proud of yourselves. Real men.

It's nice that you have a server.. I've played on it... Ok, you have the technology and the ego --

Now: emluate some good sportsmanship and be a touch nicer. After all, we welcomed you without all the dissing and such, were friendly and enjoyed your company. Now we are considered some kind of creeps because we continue to play on the server that most of you played on for so long? I can hear the howls of indignation if you were referred to thusly. Ever hear of the golden rule?

** In light of my post being one minute behind Image's... I redirect my mini-rant to whomever put the statement on the e@r web page - not to the general population of the e@r clan. Thanks Image... you rock.**<br clear=all>
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[[hgz]Vinnie]

I like to play at Fr3nsyc I think all you people who play there are cool. We don't have anything against you guys. I guess Death thinks too many newbies play there though I don't see too many newbies. I kinda find it easy sometimes too though its mostly when there is no admin and the other team has a tker and they can't do anything about him. And so I would always rush and kill their team before they could buy weapons usually. Anyways Fr3nsyc still has the coolest people and the best ping for me. It's too bad I'm not gonna be playing there anymore.

Oh, and one more thing AOL sucks and anyone that has it should get rid of it. http://www.fr3nsyc.net/ubb/wink.gif

Peace Gegs, Hick and any other people <br clear=all>
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[[hgz]Vinnie]

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[[hgz]Vinnie]

Doh! double post.

[Shakesbeer]

Image, no matter what, if one of your clanmates does or says something stupid, it's indicative of your clan. Atleast if it's obvious it's not a personal trip between rivals etc. Something like death's statement is generalizing a large group of people. Of which there are many players who exceed the level of play that death examplifys by naming off servers.

[[hgz]Vinnie]

Shakes is right but, have you ever played at a server that he's named? If you have you would agree they are more tough than Fr3nsyc. I find w.e.w harder but I don't know anyone there really. But to me Shakes you seem to make me feel like I'm not wanted at Fr3nsyc. And trust me it rubs off on your clan, too. Oh, and by the way since you won't answer me on icq has my situation been looked into?

[Tolerance]

Vinnie...this situation that you speak of is supposed to be taken care of OFF THE BOARDS, not on them. Please, in the future, refrain of speaking of your "situation" from the boards.

[[hgz]Vinnie]

I tryed Tolerance but Shakes won't ever answer me. So Tolerance if you would be so kind as to get Shakes to answer then I won't post anymore about it. Well I'll drop it there and see if Shakes will answer me soon.<br clear=all>
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[[e@r]DeathScythe]

Ok I see every took my post the wrong way.
What I meant was,In other server it is more challenging since there are more players and FF is off,so you rarely run into problems...

Fr3nsyc on the other hand has FF On
When you see the usual people it's great,but the FF ON attracts many tkers and other lamers so you really can't actually play and enjoy yourself,Fr3nsyc is a great server,no doubt,I don't beleive anyone or any server is "beneath me" and if you don't beleive that,then direct all your anger towards me,not my clan,my opinions are my own,not my clan as a whole,so if you really want e@r kicked or banned on sight,then only have me banned,not my clan...

To clear things up in simple terms,I mean I don't want tkers or lamers trying to be invited in my clan,no Fr3nsyc is not full of lamers,but it does attract the wrong ppl often,mainly because the "FF ON",this is a fact....So if you feel that I'm saying Fr3 is a bad server and e@r is the best etc. etc. You got it all wrong,it only means I don't want the wrong crowd trying to get in.

As for being a challenging server,many ppl are Fr3 are really good,but you can't play to the best of your abilities on a max 10 server with FF ON,What would happen to Fr3nsyc if it was 20 players with FF ON?

I'll leave that one to you,but on how to get rid of the constant chaos,I have no solution at the moment,but on the server I brought up above,you don't see these types of problems,which means why you can understand what I'm trying to say,so again This is MY opinion,so any punishment of somekind or whatever be aimed at me and not my clan....

[[e@r]Gorgalore]

Ok... I basically agree with everything that Death has said. For one thing you misunderstood him the wrong way, and another thing you guys are making a big deal out of this. I've been in fr3nsycs only a little bit (since I don't get good ping there being in OR) and everytime has been either easy or extremely lame with tking dummies. There has been a few times when the right people are in the server (like when you xbs are in and maybe some e@rs and other guys), it can get challenging and all, not to mention that fr3 has THE best set of friends I have ever seen a server have. Everyone in there seems to know each other and get along, and if I lived further south I know I would enjoy playing there more, but I don't. But guys, I guarantee that you will see a difference between fr3 and WEW. When I started to play in WEW I realized that I wasn't quite as good as I thought... It was just the servers I was playing on. Also... don't take one person's words and make them the whole clan's, even though I, for one, agree with DeathScythe...

[[e@r]iMagE]

Shakes, a clan members opinion is not the WHOLE clan's opinion. Sure, something like death's post may show that e@r is full of assholes =X but that would be to those who don't know us. I know I play in fr3 ALOT ever since beta 3 or 4.. i dunno and I try to be friends with everyone in there.

I hope my congeniality and good nature in the server shows for SOMETHING and may make some people think that the clan isn't so bad. I know that most the people in fr3 who plays with us knows we aren't complete jerks and hopefully something that Death did won't make everyone bash the WHOLE clan. I hope that made sense http://www.fr3nsyc.net/ubb/wink.gif

[JaZz0r]

Few things I'd like to comment on...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana">quote:</font><HR>For one thing you misunderstood him the wrong way<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Okay, then tell us - How should we misunderstand him?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana">quote:</font><HR>Also... don't take one person's words and make them the whole clan's<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana">quote:</font><HR>a clan members opinion is not the WHOLE clan's opinion<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Heh, where should I start? This is posted on the e@r website regarding invitation into the clan. Why is this load of crap even on your website if it doesn't conform to the rest of the clan's attitude? If you're going to have a website representing a group of people and refer people to it, I'd make damn sure that the people it represents does it correctly...

Also, to DeathScythe (and e@r, too), I don't mean to put you in the spot, but why do you play on the Fr3nsyc servers if you feel that way about it? If your server is that much better, without the TKing lamers, etc., why must you continue to play on the Fr3nsyc servers?

Seems like a good time to say that e@r can "Talk the talk", but tend to "Walk the walk" in another fashion...

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Jeff Zemla (AKA JaZz0r)
webmaster@fr3nsyc.net

[[hgz]Vinnie]

Jazzor how can I put this nicely...put a sock in it. Yes I know already I'm an asshole so don't take it personal. But not everyone in the clan does the recruiting. DeathScythe does most of the recruiting that's why he posted that. Like I said I just find fr3 easy kills. And why would you care what other people think. If you know it's not true then you got nothing to worry about. Well guess what I'm sick and tired of all you xb's playing "god" and acting all high and mighty. If you aren't wanting to leave xb then why would you care what Death says about the way he wants to recruit people?

I think I better shut up now before I say anything else.<br clear=all>
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[[e@r]DeathScythe]

Ok to Jazzor
"Also, to DeathScythe (and e@r, too), I don't mean to put you in the spot, but why do you play on the Fr3nsyc servers if you feel that way about it?If your server is that much better, without the TKing lamers, etc., why must you continue to play on the Fr3nsyc servers?"

I don't play on Fr3 much at all,it's pretty rare...
Again I did NOT say e@r and other servers are better than Fr3 etc.I only pointed out the facts...If you did not notice,I said Fr3nsyc is a Great server,which it is...
As for post,all of our post have our names on it,where does it say it has to speak for everyone,like I said "My opinions are my own" not the clan's....I don't even see why my clan was dragged into this,it was my post,not anyone else's...

"Seems like a good time to say that e@r can "Talk the talk", but tend to "Walk the walk" in another fashion..."

What does this mean?That we make big talk but we suck or something?I think not,Once again "The Clan as a whole made big talk"
If ppl still beleive that MY post speaks for the clan,then once again I correct you NO it was MY post,not the clan's....

Speaking of clan's....why so hostile towards mines?It couldn't have been my post alone...I start to beleive it was a spark/excuse to hate my clan...If so,go out and admit it,no reason to go around the bush with it....Why act like our clan is screwed up or that we suck,it's not like xb is all that perfect itself....No matter,we will find out Monday in our OGL match will we not?
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[[hgz]Vinnie]

I just wanna come flat out and say something. I don't like xb except for Jbond,AS, jjang and Virus. All the rest r just annoying.<br clear=all>
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[Commander_Steve]

this post doesnt really relate about Fr3nsyc server anymore.

it looks more like a petty battle against 2 clans (e@r and xb) over superiority. we're trying to put each other down.

if you look at this post from another perspective, like someone who sparingly plays on fr3 and neither is in xb or e@r, would mostlikely think this is very fruitless
its leading to nothing. What good would this do, Are you gonna have higher prestige to the eyes of other people?

this is soo dumb of you people writing this, you guys are what like 20+ years old, is this your maturity level at your age?

out of my time playing at fr3 or cs or anyother game, i dont think ive seen something this dumb.
well i have nothing else to say at this moment and i hope we all will reflect on our actions that have taken place.
goodbye.

[[e@r]Gorgalore]

There have been a few members of xb who have pissed me off by just ignoring me and even acting real cocky and shit. but does this mean that's what the whole clan is like? I don't think so.

Also... if someone plays on ONE server ALL the time, how can that person really be judged?

And now what the hell... You say just because i'm in [e@r] that I'll be kicked when I join?? That, in my opinion, is totally abusing your powers. Just cuz all you admins are xb, so you gotta be assholes and do whatever you want?

[Stimpy]

vin........ok, i see that you admitted you're an a**hole, but continuing to insult, blame and gripe on this server prolly isn't gonna go over well with many people. Please, for your own sake, try to be a little nicer and don't try to get the last word into every subject.....

I'm not tryin to pick a fight or ANYTHING, but just take a look at all the old posts and realize that most of your posts have been locked due to arguements.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by [hgz]Vinnie:
I just wanna come flat out and say something. I don't like xb except for Jbond,AS, and Virus. All the rest r just annoying.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What the heck is that supposed to mean? If the rest of xb was sooo annoying, wouldn't there be a lot more flam-age towards them? No, take a look at all the times you've been complaining about how you've been banned, and how Shakes is mean.....YOU are annoying to ME, and many other fr3nsyc'ers.

Once again, I'm not trying to start ANYTHING with you OR anybody else, but you just gotta realize that it's gone too far. I don't think that insulting Jazzor is going to do any good, either.

[[e@r]DeathScythe]

I understand Commander Steve....
Your right...I'll drop this

[[hgz]Vinnie]

Stimpy I wasn't really complaining about the server you dummy I was I guess what you would call getting the last word in. Well guess what anus face I don't take shit from anyone. I don't care who you are if I don't like what you're saying I'll say something about it. If you don't like what I say I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY got that? I also don't care if I annoy you either. Just get it straight you stay out of posts like this one unless it concerns you ok? Have a nice day. http://www.fr3nsyc.net/ubb/smile.gif

[hippi_fox]

OK THATS ENUF........im suprised jaz and lead let this go on as far as this....lead probally thinks its funny......

[Shakesbeer]

I love vinnie's delousions of grandure. Cause of course he's the best player out there. But of course he's going to say "no I don't think I'm the best player on there." Yeah I do make you feel like you're not wanted, cause guess what? You're noT! so get it through your head. And you don't have to be in XB to feel that way. Just so you know, the piddly little level of competition CS has is nothing, by a long shot that can ever intimidate or overwhelm me, at all. DOn't care if you're coh or wew. That really does show how much faith you have in your clan being good that you have to compare yourself with another clan. Looking for affirmation in your "skills" by measuring yourself with a "better" clan.

Why ff on, cause lamers play with it off. Lamers with no aim or skill. OGL just promotes lamer-ism. CS is fast becoming a deathmatch as opposed to any kind of sim, which is really ashame. Rushing etc would be rendered useless, as it would be in real life.

second, all of use admins, were admins BEFORE, I repeat, BEFORE xb came about as a CS clan. So all this "all you xbs are admins" is lame. It's just a poor excuse for bad sports to use when they break the rules. Which are clear cut and available for everyone to review on this very site. None of the present admins abuse their power at all.

death- by putting that up as a recruiting, you definitly where speaking for your clan. Now if you said that in the forum in response to an individual's comment, I could understand it being an opinion. But it wasn't and it was on your page representing your clan. See the corrilation?

Reality check everyone. This is a game, a stupid little computer game. Don't hide behind your computer acting all tough. Or don't act like a complete ass for the same reason. People won't like you, won't want to play with you, and you'll be wondering why. More then likely you're confused because you have created an online persona which is opposite of your real life one.

Goregalore- when you've been playing online games for along time, you'll learn most of the "good" players almost never play on pub servers. It's a waste of time. Or if they do, they go to one where they know other decent-good players frequent. In CS terms, going to a server that has a 20 max players on a map that's ment for 10-12, with ff OFF, is NOT skill. It's what we refer to as spamming. ANyone can mash the buttons down.

To sum up, Vinnie, you're an ass, go away. Seriously, from the bottom of many hearts, go away. e@r chill, we of xb honestly don't care about how "good" you are or anything like that. Just don't act stupid on the servers, and play the game. Now should